Nowhere in that article does it say the laptop is disinfo.
further, this isn't even a primary source. This is an idiot on a blog stating that other media sites specifically did not say it was "russian disinfo", but rather republished and quoted a letter which also did not say the laptop was russion disinfo. (Maybe you should read that let…
Nowhere in that article does it say the laptop is disinfo.
further, this isn't even a primary source. This is an idiot on a blog stating that other media sites specifically did not say it was "russian disinfo", but rather republished and quoted a letter which also did not say the laptop was russion disinfo. (Maybe you should read that letter? Here it is: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000 read it. Everyone who whines about this should)
Maybe... seriously, maybe read the article before you link it?
Yeah, that letter was bullshit. All of the people who signed off on thar letter knew the laptop wasn't foreign disinformation ahead of time. The FBI knew about its legitimacy for over a year prior to that letter being written. The letter is an example of domestic election interference by our own intelligence agencies, who lied on purpose about the nature of the laptop, in order to prevent reporters from covering it before the election.
Those people knew that it wasn't Russia. They knew it was legitimately sourced. They knew that emails weren't hacked by foreigners. But rather than confirming the legitimacy of the emails, they sent out this bullshit memo, insinuating that maybe Russia had something to do with it. They knew Russia had nothing to do with it when they wrote this memo! This is what is normally referred to as "disinformation." But NPR and the rest of the mainstream media bought it, and curtailed their coverage of the story ahead of the election in response. So the CIA and the FBI engaged in a domestic disinformation operation with the purpose of influencing an election outcome. That disinformation campaign was laundered through NPR. But liberals apparently think there's nothing wrong with this.
Wow. Read beyond the false headline. First, that's not about the people who signed the letter. Second, it shows the opposite of what they claim, that the FBI confirmed to Twitter that the laptop was real.
You see only what fits your politics. And you work hard to keep it that way, truth just doesn't matter nearly as much.
"Prior to the presidential election on November 3, 2020, the FBI never formally revealed that the laptop was “real” and in the FBI’s possession. As Dehmlow testified to the Committee, had the Hunter Biden story been a product of an actual Russian disinformation campaign, FITF would have been fully authorized to warn the companies of such a campaign: “But if there is a foreign malign influence operation and we’ve got specific details about how those actors are propagating information operations, influence operations on platforms, that’s something we could share the specific details of.” Instead, the refusal of FBI officials—the very officials who knew the laptop was real—to verify the authenticity of the laptop allowed widespread censorship about an otherwise accurate news story."
I'm totally willing to see any evidence that disagrees with my preconceptions. This back and forth can go on indefinitely, as far as I'm concerned. Would you like to?
The FBI has a general policy of not commenting on ongoing investigations, as the House GOP knows very well. It's not surprising they didn't comment on this one. The remark to Twitter was no doubt private and off the record, and probably still not in keeping with that policy, though they might have felt they had a good reason. The quote you copy is about disclosure of disinfo, not confirming info.
The FBI didn't have any control over censorship, which was never remotely as much as the GOP pretends.
It remains that none of that is about the people who signed the letter you were complaining about.
The people who signed the letter intentionally misled the American people by insinuating that it was a foreign propaganda effort, even though, at best, they had zero evidence to that effect, and at worst, they knew full well that it was not a foreign propaganda effort. These are spooks. They engaged in a propagandistic and meritless smear campaign against a journalist in an attempt to change the outcome of an election, and they might have even succeeded. The fact that you support this is insane.
No, again, they did not intentionally mislead anyone. They gave their views as outside experts. The story was initially highly suspicious to any objective viewer, given the timing and inflammatory content, and as the letter said, bore the hallmarks of Russian disinfo. That's all true. Turned out the suspicions were unfounded, but they couldn't know that at the time.
I've read everything that has been presented. The fact that the letter even mentioned Russia is a travesty. Russia had nothing to do with this, and they knew it. If they were being honest, the memo would have said "this laptop is legitimate, the emails contained within are valid, and no foreign country had anything to do with them."
The letter says that they do not know if it's Russian disinformation, which is a lie. They knew that it wasn't Russian disinformation for at least a year ahead of time. You can call me stupid, but it doesn't change the facts of the case. A bunch of spooks disinformed the media ahead of an election for political reasons. They engaged in this domestic disinformation campaign with the explicit purpose of influencing the outcome of the election. Liberals apparently see nothing wrong with this.
Nowhere in that article does it say the laptop is disinfo.
further, this isn't even a primary source. This is an idiot on a blog stating that other media sites specifically did not say it was "russian disinfo", but rather republished and quoted a letter which also did not say the laptop was russion disinfo. (Maybe you should read that letter? Here it is: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000 read it. Everyone who whines about this should)
Maybe... seriously, maybe read the article before you link it?
That's the list of spooks that misled the entire corporate media into thinking that they needed to censor true information for political reasons.
did you read the letter?
Yeah, that letter was bullshit. All of the people who signed off on thar letter knew the laptop wasn't foreign disinformation ahead of time. The FBI knew about its legitimacy for over a year prior to that letter being written. The letter is an example of domestic election interference by our own intelligence agencies, who lied on purpose about the nature of the laptop, in order to prevent reporters from covering it before the election.
Here, since you obviously won't, here's the relevant bit:
"It is for all these reasons that we write to say that the arrival on the US poli<cal scene of emails
purportedly belonging to Vice President Biden’s son Hunter, much of it related to his <me
serving on the Board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, has all the classic earmarks of a
Russian informa<on opera<on.
We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by
President Trump’s personal aSorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have
evidence of Russian involvement -- just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the
Russian government played a significant role in this case."
Now, re-read your last post, or any previous on the subject really, and tell me how you don't sound like an utter loon.
Since, you know, they explicitly *TELL YOU* that they don't know that it's russia.
Odd that none of your talking heads have ever mentioned that to you.
Maybe ask yourself why.
https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/testimony-reveals-fbi-employees-who-warned-social-media-companies-about-hack
Those people knew that it wasn't Russia. They knew it was legitimately sourced. They knew that emails weren't hacked by foreigners. But rather than confirming the legitimacy of the emails, they sent out this bullshit memo, insinuating that maybe Russia had something to do with it. They knew Russia had nothing to do with it when they wrote this memo! This is what is normally referred to as "disinformation." But NPR and the rest of the mainstream media bought it, and curtailed their coverage of the story ahead of the election in response. So the CIA and the FBI engaged in a domestic disinformation operation with the purpose of influencing an election outcome. That disinformation campaign was laundered through NPR. But liberals apparently think there's nothing wrong with this.
Wow. Read beyond the false headline. First, that's not about the people who signed the letter. Second, it shows the opposite of what they claim, that the FBI confirmed to Twitter that the laptop was real.
You see only what fits your politics. And you work hard to keep it that way, truth just doesn't matter nearly as much.
From the link above:
"Prior to the presidential election on November 3, 2020, the FBI never formally revealed that the laptop was “real” and in the FBI’s possession. As Dehmlow testified to the Committee, had the Hunter Biden story been a product of an actual Russian disinformation campaign, FITF would have been fully authorized to warn the companies of such a campaign: “But if there is a foreign malign influence operation and we’ve got specific details about how those actors are propagating information operations, influence operations on platforms, that’s something we could share the specific details of.” Instead, the refusal of FBI officials—the very officials who knew the laptop was real—to verify the authenticity of the laptop allowed widespread censorship about an otherwise accurate news story."
I'm totally willing to see any evidence that disagrees with my preconceptions. This back and forth can go on indefinitely, as far as I'm concerned. Would you like to?
The FBI has a general policy of not commenting on ongoing investigations, as the House GOP knows very well. It's not surprising they didn't comment on this one. The remark to Twitter was no doubt private and off the record, and probably still not in keeping with that policy, though they might have felt they had a good reason. The quote you copy is about disclosure of disinfo, not confirming info.
The FBI didn't have any control over censorship, which was never remotely as much as the GOP pretends.
It remains that none of that is about the people who signed the letter you were complaining about.
The people who signed the letter intentionally misled the American people by insinuating that it was a foreign propaganda effort, even though, at best, they had zero evidence to that effect, and at worst, they knew full well that it was not a foreign propaganda effort. These are spooks. They engaged in a propagandistic and meritless smear campaign against a journalist in an attempt to change the outcome of an election, and they might have even succeeded. The fact that you support this is insane.
No, again, they did not intentionally mislead anyone. They gave their views as outside experts. The story was initially highly suspicious to any objective viewer, given the timing and inflammatory content, and as the letter said, bore the hallmarks of Russian disinfo. That's all true. Turned out the suspicions were unfounded, but they couldn't know that at the time.
Can you tell me what the two quoted paragraphs say?
Did you read them?
Or do you continue to simply ignore evidence you can easily read?
So, you didn't read the fucking letter.
Seriously.
READ IT YOU FUCKING TWATWAFFLE.
I've read everything that has been presented. The fact that the letter even mentioned Russia is a travesty. Russia had nothing to do with this, and they knew it. If they were being honest, the memo would have said "this laptop is legitimate, the emails contained within are valid, and no foreign country had anything to do with them."
So, the letter that says they do not know if it's russian disinformation, is somehow them telling everyone it's russian disinformation.
You realize, you live in a fucking fantasy world right?
My god you're stupid.
The letter says that they do not know if it's Russian disinformation, which is a lie. They knew that it wasn't Russian disinformation for at least a year ahead of time. You can call me stupid, but it doesn't change the facts of the case. A bunch of spooks disinformed the media ahead of an election for political reasons. They engaged in this domestic disinformation campaign with the explicit purpose of influencing the outcome of the election. Liberals apparently see nothing wrong with this.
No, they weren't privy to the FBI's info. They were *former* intelligence officials, etc.
If they didn't know the truth, they should have just shut the fuck up about it
There's nothing wrong with experts issuing a warning in what has every appearance of being a dangerous situation.
Not even close to reality about the people who wrote the letter.
Hi puppy.